At 7/10/17 11:54 AM, FinnMK wrote: Hello everyone! Your friendly neighbourhood Finn M-K here with some info about my scores.

In terms of my scores...
I'm the kind of guy who can often find things to like about tracks, but it's hard to really, sincerely impress me. As a result, I gave out a lot of 6s, 7s, and low 8s. I awarded only FOUR scores that were 9 or above. If my overall score for you was above an 8.5, congrats! Feel good about yaself.

I'll follow suit. While I won't review or PM everyone my thoughts, I generally feel the same way. I prefer to throw support at artists, just starting out, as encouragement can make a lot of difference.

I have responded to a couple of PM' s - attempting to explain my scores for your tracks. I can assure you, that i spent a lot of time with each track. Once I started placing numbers, as I went down the list, my standards would curve with the gradient of musicianship. I often went backwards to either lower or heighten a score after more listens...

Where I would prefer to encourage every positive aspect of a musicians' piece, this is a competition and I had to compare it to everyone's piece, in the spirit of competition.

So if your piece didn't receive a score you agree with, feel free to PM me. I will do my best to break it down for you, however, you must allow for a tad bit of bluntness, when it comes to the competition portion of the score.

Otherwise, I listened to some pretty phenomenal music, for underdogs. Thanks for that experience.

Wait...did i fixes it?

At 5/20/17 06:12 PM, sorohanro wrote:

At 5/20/17 05:11 PM, Bad-Man-Incorporated wrote: Great idea here, though. :)
Glad to see you.

OMGOMGOMG!!! You here... so cool.
Bought your band some time ago on Bandcamp, cool band. You should also use Bandcamp, we should do a collab again, maybe a full album.

awesome. I forget about my band when pushing sales and such. Thank you for your support!! We just released another album, this month, and it's all done on a 7 string. Fun.
I'm always down for collabing, brother!

At 5/18/17 05:41 PM, sorohanro wrote:

Cheers! I hope I'll see some more newgrounders here ;)

I don't sell my music anywhere. I'm still happy to give it away and I still upload here, when I can. The only stuff that is getting sold is through my movie scoring..and I don't have any control over it. It's through the distributors. Sadly, I can't make it cheaper, for NG'ers. Although, it already is pretty cheap. :)

Great idea here, though. :)
Glad to see you.

Drums. Suuuuper lazy. I reuse fills. Over and over.

Booo. :(

My lil corner

At 11/10/15 08:57 AM, NekoMika wrote: May or may not join in on the fun again. c:

I just need to pass two users to become the #1 audio reviewer (like I've been trying to be for 2 years.) @Bad-Man-Incorporated and @wyldfyre1

Have fun :D

Haha, I just review cause i want to tell people how much they kick my ass. No number chasing. Just love listening to fuckers on newgrounds. haha.

Thank you @realfaction for the support and love! haha.
Busy is, as busy does.

I do EVERYTHING within my power to say "Newgrounds" at every opportunity. If that is ok with @Tomfulp. haha. I spread the good word of musicians and artists, EVERY chance I get.
Newgrounds has supported me and my music for a long time, I hope to expose newgrounds' artists as well, within the industry that I have been recognized.

Let me know how else I can help, if you guys figure something out!! :)

At 7/25/15 02:59 PM, liljim wrote:

Reading through some of these posts, it doesn't seem many have read the voting proposal thread Tom made a while back, or maybe we didn't cover all our plans in that thread... dunno, but you are going to be able to edit your vote. The voting icons will be going away. When you leave a vote you'll be encouraged to leave a review with it (though it won't be mandatory) etc.

I remember reading about why a mandatory review isn't going to happen, if you vote, I've just forgotten. (OLD AGE) If you could refresh my memory, that'd be badass.
I used to think that a mandatory review, with a vote, would quell most of the 0 votes..but..I browse songs by "recently submitted" function...That way I don't miss new stuff.

Although, I guess it would also encourage a ridiculous amount of "Alt" accounts. haha.

At 7/6/15 05:35 PM, TaintedLogic wrote:

At 7/6/15 03:22 PM, BabySteps wrote: Are there prizes?

Yes! Although this year's prizes have yet to be arranged for, last year's included forum signatures, your music being featured on the front page, and (for the one overall winner), a mention on @Bad-Man-Incorporated's radio show! :)

We've called the radio show quits, for this year. It was a lot of work and we just didn't have the time. So no show as a prize, this year, sadly. Sorry newgrounds! :(

There's a lot of great vocalists on newgrounds. :) What genre? Techno?
I'll admit, there are a lot of rock/metal singers. Myself, I've never attempted to do vocals for electronic or techno...that would definitely be a challenge!

Anyways, just checking the genre. Would be willing to attempt, just for challenge sake.

At 3/19/15 05:54 PM, rojozeus wrote: Thank you! your opinion helps loads.

Felt it is a start of something cool. Left a review there. :) We've been doing a successful radio show/podcast for almost 7 years now. If you need any other assistance with anything, be very willing to help. :)

Still open for any more singers?

At 12/31/14 12:30 AM, ZJ wrote: I would love to see this happen just so I could add my interview of you to NG, Tom.

WHAT!? I hounded him for years to be on my radio show!! hahaha. Well done!

At 12/22/14 01:42 PM, TomFulp wrote: What are your thoughts on a Podcast category in the Audio Portal? We would need to raise the upload limit to around 200 megs to accommodate lengthier material but other than that it's not hard to add. Would you like that?

Do you think it would need subgenres? It's kinda weird with podcasts because there could be a lot of subgenres - people may be better off just tagging their podcast with terms they hope will attract people. We could launch as a single category and feel it out over time for subgenres.

200mb is huge. Our radio show/podcast was an hour long. Files were a respectable 70mb only and still high quality. I also think you might be late to the podcast train...

But multiple categories would be a must. Sub genres would be daunting, but labels would be more helpful after main categories.

I'd be interested to see where this would go. However I think more and more people like video stuff more..youtube etc.

If it flies, though, I'll definitely contribute!!

Hmm. I can only give you info from my perspective.

I just finished scoring a film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3400058/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

https://www.facebook.com/thesheltermovie

I kinda made sure I was in the know, from the beginning, so I could create and keep with the feel and knew what direction I would be going.

Otherwise, I would have received the film after the final edit and "ready, set, GO!". Time limit. Anywhere from two weeks to two months. Which is hard for musicians trying to make it and still balance a life.

For example, in my case, I have a full time job, wife, 3 kids under 12, band etc...so to just drop everything, for a few weeks/months would have been impossible. So the process I was in, was my solution and lasted about 6 months, but was not obtrusive in my life. I still fell within the time the writer/director needed me to be complete. And not obtrusive to him, either.

For my comfortability and time, I asked for the script, before it was even filmed. Just to get a general feel for the flick.

I was sent bits and pieces of scenes, once the filming was complete. Before it even hit the editing floor.

I made a bunch of project files that were "ideas" of the scenes.

When I started scoring for "real", I wound up getting 9 very different versions of the film, as time progressed, anyways. I definitely learned a lot about the process.

But, scoring is usually one of the last things done, because of the way scenes can change, through editing. Pulling and editing scenes AFTER the scoring is done can sometimes take away the feels, too. Especially if the musician is no longer on the "payroll", so to speak.

I should mention, that we did this, via the internet. I'm in B.C. Canada. The movie was filmed in USA. Writer/director lives on the other side of the country. We met "face to face" only a few times over "facetime". And all my stems were given to the editing company (in the states) on line....

So I guess, the process is usually done at the end, because the film is already the way (mostly) that the directors/writers etc want it. Our job, as musicians, is to make sure we accentuate and deliver those vibes, through music, to those who are too thick to understand the flick without music. hahaha.

I think, if I were able to do it for a living, that I would still do it, (if I were the selected musician) by asking for the script, seeing and writing to bits and pieces of the movie, before the real score. Just so I have the connection already. Going in cold, might not work for me. But, who knows. This is my first full score. Hopefully I'll do more and understand it further and provide better info to questions like these.

Cheers mang.

At 10/13/14 02:46 PM, SCTE3 wrote: We had Radiogrounds for awhile but I rarely check on it now. Pretty sure @Bad-Man-Incorporated runs a radio station but mainly sticks to Metal and Rock genres.

For the record, I play EVERYTHING. From metal, dubstep, cinema, classical....if its awesome, I play it. Awesome, is yes, subjective.

But....haha.

I agree. Don't do SOME shit for free. Especially if the "friend" is demanding musicians and instruments of a caliber, that said musician had to pay out his nose for the skill and sound.

However, a legit job is a legit job. The first one is ALWAYS free...haha. Unless you are already established. You don't really get to just work on big budget films because some dude liked your shit on Newgrounds. (Well maybe....)

Not that I am cutting the musicians here. I have made HUGE connections in the film industry, through my radio show and play ONLY newgrounders music, (because you all AWESOME) in hopes that one of those movie types, visits here and snags one of you, for their project.

That said, your first job will be free. Or at least in small parts.

IF "friend" is legit, this is an alright opportunity....however, he is GOING to get what he pays for.
It reminds me of bar owners that try to hire bands by saying.." Hey, I'll get you exposure, and a $50 bar tab for the band. That should be awesome for you"....well it isn't.

We lug thousands of dollars of gear to your shithole, drink $50 booze (like one drink each per band member), play for an hour + and entertain YOUR guests, (most of which, came with US), after practicing for months on end.
Free. NO. Our time is not free. But we can be bargained with.

At 9/29/14 03:32 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

I sat around not getting a check for at least six months, maybe more, playing almost every weekend. Apparently the PROs are making a play for relevance as the top-down model of labels and promotional engines is being replaced by a bottom-up model where bands establish fan bases that have to be assembled together like a quilt to create a listening fanbase for a mover-shaker lable or radio outlet. I'm quite sure I'm getting a bigger slice because unregistered bands aren't claiming their chunk of the money leaving more in the pot for people staying on top of their paperwork. We are definitely in a very weird period where record labels and radio stations are broker and more irrelevant than ever, but the listening audience needs some sort of gatekeepers to keep from being washed out in a wave of unlistenable "throw it at the wall and see what sticks" music so labels and radio stations are still very secure as gateways to turn to for music references. Now it's the quality of the artists that makes the labels, as opposed to the late-70s-early 2000's years where artists were a dime a dozen and could be screwed over with impunity.

Maybe the day when you can make a living as an independent artist is not too far away after all... that being said, I blew the whole check on repairs to my van, which it did not come close to covering.

I wish there was more focus in this forum about making money with original music at live events, but apparently most people find the prospest so depressing/intimidating they don't want to talk about it.

Agreed.

That fan base quilt are the people who will pay for the events. The promoters can be shoddy and unless a big organized festival, you are at the mercy of the "doorman's" competency to collect the money from a live event. Hence, the reason for things like SOCAN, BMI etc. It seems live music is the best way to get 'real time' paid. Even if it did take you 6 months.

My biggest gripe is a bar/pub owner saying " I'm giving you exposure and a $50 BAR tab, why should I pay you a minimum of $400 for your band?"

"Um because 4 professional musicians are bringing a quilted audience (of everyone they know) to get hammered in your house, which is where you make the biggest money. We haul thousands of dollars worth of gear, set up, tear down and sometimes bring our own goddamn sound guy to work with your shitty sound system so we don't sound like idiots and people keep coming to hear us play"

I live in a shitty little town, though, so maybe those are more 3rd world problems. hahaha.

The best I can do, especially for newgrounders, is play the shit out of their songs on my radio show and hope some movie industry people are paying attention. There can be some loot there. ish. (so far just a lot of work)

How many "bands" are there on ng? Not just basement studio one dood playing everything...but full on bands? We should start a forum chat about experiences and tips and such...I'm old, I think you (FUNKbrs) are old too :P, but hopefully we are still "cool" enough to help younger bands move forward!

At 9/22/14 05:36 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: The whole time I've been making music, I've always been under the assumption that royalties only happen for rich musicians getting lots of airplay and moving lots of product. The people I've known who've gotten royalty checks have always gotten joke amounts, like a few bucks, sometimes even less than a dollar.

However, I recently recieved a 250$ check from BMI for royalties on live performances.

That's rad!

In Canada, if you are registered with SOCAN (the Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada) and fill out their insanely complex forms, you get looked after as well. Bars, pubs and venue holders have to pay a specific fee to SOCAN to hold events and they usually look after their musicians. This also covers radio play as well, as stations submit their play lists hourly.

For me and my music under "Bad Man Incorporated", my music is protected from someone else making money through copyright infringement. But I allow "Free Use". As "Bad Man Incorporated". Especially since ALL my "bad man" stuff is uploaded here.

My "real name" and band is registered to make money. We are still swimming through our membership, but SOCAN still keeps track of $ owed, while our stuff is played on radio and we do live events. (so I was told by a SOCAN rep).

It's a great idea, if you are trying to make money, with your music. :)

I also thought you were looking for me with the thread title... hahaha... (not really)

At 7/21/14 12:39 PM, Deshiel wrote:

If it can exctract the "hidden gems" from the rest of the mayonese then I will be mega happy to give it all my four thumbs :)

That's the ticket!

Good people were easy to find when the old design was up... That's how I discovered you anyway. If I didn't know you in that system, I would probably never know what a badass you are thanks to this one. :)

Cheers for that....i also whored the shit outta myself by reviewing other dudes music ALL the time.

At 7/21/14 12:12 PM, Deshiel wrote:

I've been only in like few NG contests, but I know that everyone gets on like your best buddy but once the thing starts they will try thier best to get ridd of you.

short version : People usualy end up hating each other and themselves.

That's a pretty dramatic version. I guess when the contests are in full swing, it can get pretty catty, for sure. Competitiveness can bring out the worst in people, as well as the best...

But If people are that shallow, their musicianship didn't mean anything in the first place or they don't take it as seriously as they could. Newgrounds definitely isn't the end all and be all for musicians. I've just always found it very helpful and do my best to return as much advice as I've received, to be a better musician.

The audio is shoved 2/3's down the FP. The only people that generally look are the other musicians. If they can make it passed the games and movies..haha..But I'm positive some decent thought goes into the audio FP....especially in the last few months. Been some great tunes there...

Either way, I guess I'm just gung ho to help people get more recognition. There are soo many great artists on Newgrounds, they are harder and harder to find, without sifting through mountains of gross stuff.

I was thinking this whole underdog thing could produce an easier way. :)

At 7/21/14 11:57 AM, Deshiel wrote:

At 7/21/14 11:44 AM, Bad-Man-Incorporated wrote:

At 7/21/14 11:38 AM, Deshiel wrote:

I'm the frontpage defender!

what is the criteria for your subjectivity?

One does not need a high-tech studio quality to impress me, or to break throught my defenses. I <3 creativity, I like it when the music makes sense and everything goes hand in hand like a solved piece of a puzzle game (can't realy come up with better explanation). Frontpaged stuff should be only from the best that the audio community has to offer.

But when something too bland and boring gets there, I will strike. Maybe I'm just jealous :)

I only ask, because it could be some helpful criteria that would fit some underdog thing....I think that is more helpful that zero bombing someones work, regardless how it pleases you, or not. ;)

Cheers mang.

At 7/21/14 11:38 AM, Deshiel wrote:

I'm the frontpage defender!

what is the criteria for your subjectivity?

It isn't much, but I could offer up air time for the winning songs on my radio show/podcast. Exposure is exposure!

At 7/20/14 07:23 PM, TheDoor6 wrote:

Okay, no worries, man! I really appreciate your support. ^^ I just hope more people will realize that the main reason why this contest may exclude some users is to be able to give other less popular users more success. Whether or not that's fair - and which criteria makes it the most fair - is worthy of consideration. ;)

This would be a good venue to discuss criteria.

-fanbase could be one
-maybe total listens of all songs....from a user...however can be strongly self motivated...hahaha.

I usually look for date added, listens, reviews....and general artist status ...

Most recording software comes with eq settings that mimic lo fi sound through eq's...etc.
I may be able to help if ya like. Run it through some settings, see if you like them...